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Need Help With Ministrel Class Deeds

December 8, 2013, 5:03 pm
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Posted this earlier in Ministrel Forum with no responses. So I will try here.

First let me make one general comment... I despise the new Trait Tree system and am about ready to put LOTRO in the closet permanently. I feel the Devs did not give enough thought to the impact of this change, the only real character development function in the xpac, on existing L85s and awarding of trait points. It looks to me that there are at least three class deed trait points that I am going to be unable to earn for my Ministrel. Personally I feel that all existing L85s should have automatically been granted the full 55 Trait Points when the xpac went live. I have about a month left on my current paid subscription and will make a decision as to my future with the game in early January. With my current feelings I don't think I will be playing LOTRO ever again after early January.

That said I am very upset and angry about my Ministrel. I currently have three Class Deeds left to do:

Tier 5: Calls for Graceful Demeanor. How the heck do I complete this. Have tried casting Enlivening Grace numerous times, but the deed does not even show up in the class deeds listing.

Tier 6: Subtle Movements calls for casting Song of Soothing. I cannot find this spell anywhere.

Tier 8: Lyrics of Bravery. OK I can see this is Anthem of Composure but which trait line(s) supports it.

Any help on this very frustrating situation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Second Age 95 lvl weapons

December 8, 2013, 5:29 pm
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I had finally managed to get my hands on one of those Flawed Symbols of Celebrimbor and got my weaponsmith to craft pretty anticipated Second Age weapon (lvl 95). However, much to my disappointment, the new weapon proved to be only marginally better than the Third Age weapon I crafted earlier, the difference in the DPS between them (both maxed) being as little as 2. Now, I'm pretty sure that on lower levels that difference was much more distinctive - is this working as intended now or is it some sort of a bug? Frankly I don't see a point using those quite elusive emerald shards and darn expensive symbols for crafting gear which is almost the same as the stuff I could get with with just some shards and ingots...
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The Grima Influence Also Bugged

December 8, 2013, 10:38 pm
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Two people enter the area and receive the quest, both accept. Two people approach the quest completion area. Only one gets the completion notice. No amount of leaving fellowship, leaving the area, relogging, and rebooting has made any difference whatsoever. Other people continue to run through and receive the quest.

This has happened more than once (as I discovered *after* I ran into it), so make sure you do this quest individually!
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Vector quest done for Broadacres but NPC not active

December 9, 2013, 12:25 am
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It is my second character through, I had no trouble getting the pointer quests first time.

I'm supposed to talk to a character outside Stoke standing at a wagon. The NPC has a grey quest ring.
Quote:
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"Gandalf can be found at the main gate of Edoras.
You should hasten to Edoras and speak with Gandalf."
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"Húlac can be found in the town of Stoke in the Broadacres.
You should ride to Stoke and search for Húlac."
My alt has done the epic quests all the way up to HD, where the quests stop because character is 88 and the epics become for level 94 (from the previous 93). Others have reported random gated quests where epics needed to be done first, this is not the problem for me. Supposedly Woodhurst epic bit (level 92 93) needed to be done before the area starts (level 88 89).

Quests of Broadacres is at 1/50
Quests of Kingstead 50/50
Quests of Eastfold 50/50

Eorlingas rep is only at 12200/30000 ally.

Somewhere the quest chains broke. I can't compare the two lists side by side easily but will try with screenies.
SLOW AND DULL, haha, but quests checked with screenshots to compare:
the Eastfold finished quests matches completely
the Kingstead finished quests matches completely

I left my troubled second character for a week, fed up with doing the same quests. Now I can't pick them back up. Gandalf is not at Edoras (Edoras is finished, Eowyn safely moved). I've been back to every town that has a stable route, checked if any leftover quest in mead halls or town NPCs. I've ridden along the roads connecting the main areas...nothing.

According to the finished quests for my first character through, Broadacres quests start at level 89 through to 91 and the Stonedans stuff 91-93 so it should be Broadacres that is due. It simply isn't happening.
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Problem with Eglain Rep Requests Quests

December 9, 2013, 1:42 am
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Just a heads up:

Some of the Request quests in the Lone Lands (bought from the quartermaster there) were not updated with the the changes to crafting, so many of them cannot be done at this time. Example: The tailor quest asks for sturdy leather bindings. As there is no such thing any more, it is not possible to do the quest.

Hopefully, they will be updated soon.
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A petition

December 9, 2013, 2:21 am
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Advice taken so moved to suggestions. My post was not intended as spam just a suggestion to make the game more of a challenge.

I actually did say half joking, in another post about playing naked with no weapons to make LOTRO more challenging but i think it would make a bit of a mockery of the game if a large percentage of the players ended up playing with no armour or weapons just to make the game more of a challenge.
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Opinion on LOTRO So far - Lord Of The Rings Online

December 9, 2013, 3:09 am
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So upon the download and installation of my game being completed I now had to choose a character and decide what class and race I would be.
This was a tough decision for me as I love elves and dwarves however I decided to go along the route of being a dwarven guardian.

Upon reaching the starting area I was enticed into the game straight away by noticing a few of the well known characters from both the book and the movie.

I met another dwarf named Baelor and we grouped up through the introduction and was going to through the section after the starter area also but we both had to go offline.

I have only seen one other player apart from him though. (Other player never spoke)

I'm on Brandywine currently in Thorins Hall.

It's a brilliant game so far and probably one of the best MMO's I've played despite there not being a whole ton of players so far.

I'm currently level 7 after one hour of playtime maybe two since I was taking it slow and doing all the quests and reading everything
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We don`t have Lottery anymore! Why? :(

December 9, 2013, 4:01 am
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Greetings Lotro Team!

My discussion for today is about Lottery.I wonder why you stopped lottery because before was well. All players have chance to win something. I think it's a good way to have a chance to enjoy things that we couldn`t get in game or we didnt have luck for those rewards or random good stuffs for characters.
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Paid Character Transfers are currently broken for certain characters.

December 9, 2013, 5:00 pm
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I haven't seen Turbine make this announcement about this yet, so thought I'd give everyone a heads up, especially for those who are still waiting to hear back on their request. My request was closed today with the following e-mail sent to me:

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Thanks for your inquiry. Paid Services has received your request to transfer your character Demospata from Elendilmir to Brandywine. I apologize, but due to a technical limitation I am not currently able to process this transfer.

As your World Character Transfer request has not been completed, any payments that may have processed have been refunded, and I have closed your request without moving your character.

Turbine continues to investigate this issue, and we will post on the Account Support forums once it has been resolved. We apologize that we are not able to transfer your character as you have requested in the interim.

If you have any additional questions or concerns, please respond to this email, and I will be happy to assist you.

Thank you,
Customer Service Agent
When I asked the agent to clarify if it was something I needed to do on my end with my character, the agent replied:

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In regard to this issue, please be aware that this is not an error specific to your account or even all of your characters. This is an issue we are aware of and are looking into. The issue is within our systems and effects each character differently. This may not be an issue with any other character on your account that you wish to transfer, although that is not guaranteed. I do apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. If you have any further questions, please reply. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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Crafting tools problem pls help.

December 9, 2013, 7:25 pm
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Hi there,i just returned to lotro and noticed my tools recipes for my metalsmith were gone,I found new ones but when I try to make them the make button is greyed out and at the top it says I need superior forge.Anyone know how to fix this ? on my new LM tailor I just got a quest saying something about this but my old metalsmith doesnt seem to get or have the quest.
I checked in thorins hall also but nada.

Anyone who knows what I should do pls reply.
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Aldburg Crafting Hall > Aldburg dueling center?

December 9, 2013, 8:38 pm
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I don't mind if people want to duel a bit. Sure thing. But it gets really irritating (not to mention laggy, depending on how many are doing it and what kind of visual special effects their class uses) when 8+ people spend over 30 solid minutes dueling inside a very small space.

That's how it was tonight on Riddermark. I went into the craft hall and they were already dueling. When they showed signs of continuing the duels, I asked politely in /say if they would mind taking that outside. They responded saying that I could always find another crafting location. I pointed out that the key word there was "crafting" location. Not dueling location. They ignored that and proceeded to duel for well over half an hour. I did the math. It took me almost 30 minutes to turn a few hundred ores into 237 ingots (plus time spend turning the bits of pure ore into high-grade skarn and the time spend repairing tools, using the vault-keeper, etc.

Obviously the immediate way for me personally to solve it is to go elsewhere. But this isn't the first day that this dueling has gone on, and dueling is not the purpose of the crafting hall. It is disruptive and rude to duel that long in one place, especially after being asked if they could just exit the craft hall. The Aldburg craft hall is the only fully outfitted (LI people, crafting facilities, vault-keeper, auctioneer, vendor, mailbox, crafting guilds) building in the entire Westemnet. Even the Snowbourn craft hall didn't have that much (the LI people were down the street). And the building is very small.

Is there any other solution if this continues to be an issue? Has anyone ever encountered this before? After they ignored my request, I went ahead with my crafting and didn't say another word to them. Just grit my teeth and bore it. But is this perhaps something a GM could deal with? Usually I just ignore this sort of behavior (like the time someone put a festival emote on me while I was trying to restock the tower for the Eaworth Hytbold quest), but that's also because its normally an isolated incident.

It's not like they were harassing me personally, or really harassing anyone in general. But it was a public disruption. Turbine has finally given us the option to have festival emotes turned off so that other people can't use them on us (I don't use that function because usually the only time people use it is during a festival, and then I just try to play nice and let them have fun and get into the spirit of things). And if a group of musicians were playing their instruments together as a sort of semi-official show (I think Landroval, for example, has a lot of musicians) and some person or persons disrupts the show, isn't that some form of harassment? Most people use craft halls to craft (or use any of the other facilities that Turbine provided to them at that location). Not to engage in completely different activities. It's bad enough when people decide to spam emotes in a small area. But at least those are restricted mostly to the chatbox and can be filtered out (unless the emotes involve audio or visual movements of the characters). Dueling is even worse.
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Helms deep deed: "Survivor of the long night"

December 10, 2013, 1:56 am
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This is supposed to give a zeal point when you complete the epic quest line in Helms Deep.

I seemed to get it on my hunter, but just finished all the quests on my burg and didn't get awarded... Anyone know why ?
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Quest Line Missing?

December 10, 2013, 3:55 am
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When HD was released I plummeted straight through with my main (I have all Class's at Cap). I got all the discovery deeds with just questing etc. On my 2nd and 3rd run through I noticed that I hadn't got EastFold Exploration done on either toon (Dorr-Shatroful was missing). I then remember a quest (instance) in Beaconwatch area that had a 2 million morale drake in it, that I hadn't done on my 2nd and 3rd run through. On my 4th run through I again was missing Dorr-Shatroful but I discovered while I was in area and it turns out to be an Orc Cave. I got a quest to destroy Orc Cave entrances in that area with no follow up. Is there a quest line broken some were, and were is my 2 million morale drake instance gone. Excuse me for my lack of quest names, I usually plough through my first couple of toons getting to know areas well, and usually I read all the questlines when im on 4th or 5th toon.
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Guardian War Chant bugs

December 10, 2013, 5:05 am
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The War Chant trait in the Guardian's Fighter of Shadow line has a couple of problems. First, it claims to work at 10 meters. If the player is not face-to-face with the mob, War Chant works less than 50% of the time. There is nothing to show that it is being resisted, so this must be a bug. As the follow-up trait increases the distance, there will probably be the same problem. As the damage only works for 10s, increasing distance may cause another problem in that it may well wear off right after the mob(s) reach the player. I would suggest increasing the time along with the distance.

A second bug is that when the player uses War Chant, there is a very noticeable hesitation/lag before being able to use a melee skill.

Another problem is with the wording of the trait. Some people may not be interested in the trait or the line because the description states that the weapon is clashed against the shield to create the damage. This is incorrect. I tried this with a two-handed weapon, and it works just fine (as long as the mob is right on top of me as per the first statement).

Other than that, so far I am enjoying the trait line.
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Virtues ... still counting?

December 10, 2013, 8:37 am
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Since I saw that no one is saying anything about these, I wanted to ask your opinion about virtues. Long time ago, I was not taken in an raid because I had my virtues under 10 (that was happening at lvl 65 and the raid was BG). I promised my self that I will always have the virtues maxed from now on. And here we are, some years after. I have virtues maxed on all my alts. And also I have more virtues maxed because some time ago the virtues was changed and I had to grind them again.
- Before DUnland, we used to choose virtues with stats to compensate here and there
- After Dunland, we used to choose virtues with mittigations because from Dunland we had an high leap on the stats (from 650 in Mirk up to 2k)
- After that, at some point, virtues was changed and we took for example tactical mittigations from will, fact who made fidelity for example useless for casters, almost all of tactical dps having tactical mittigations maxed anyway from too high will stat.
- Helm Deep. Well, what we do now? Why we need the virtues anymore? :( We have so high amount of will, agi, vit or might that the little little bonuses from virtues are useless. Resistance was what was left and still ok to equip as virtues (looking as charity, confidence and so on) but with the stupid amounts of vit, now is useless.

I think that virtues was related a lot with the ideea of true or hardcore raiders. Each raider who respected himself and his party had the virtues maxed. Since Turbine dont want the raiders anymore, is obviously that the virtues are not counting for them. Which we can see from the ideea, stupid ideea to raise automatically the virtues up to 14 or 16 (I dont know for sure) when your toon is scaled up to 95 when doing Big Battles. WHY I will ask you? Does the devs have any clue about how much time you had to grind slayer deeds in order to raise your virtues for example? Maybe now we are OP and we are doing the deeds faster, but I can show you deeds where you spended days doing them (Angmar Instances deeds for example) or hours (wolfes and trolls in Enedwaith for example). So why grant them by default?

Offtopic, I still hope that Turbine will cut the dps in half, the stats in half, will make mobs twice as morale and damage so we have an feeling of any challenge. This way the virtues will still have an point in the big plan of Lotro. But since I am wrong and we know that Turbine will NOT do this, I wonder why I spended so many hours, days and weeks doing deeds? Is any hope left to make the virtues what they was before?

I remember, each time when an recruit was asking me in kin chat about the virtues, what to choose, when to do them and so on, I was answer him: Virtues are an fine tunning of your toon. Try to choose the virtues who will make your toon complete. I am afraid that I put those kids to work for nothing ...
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Who can you trust?

December 10, 2013, 9:41 am
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Only mildly serious here. I am currently running through western Rohan, My Lore-master is at 92. Just about finished in Edoras and have been to a few of the outlying settlements.

Is it just me or do you now suspect EVERY thane or reeve of collusion with the enemy? I mean after that affair with the leader in Cliving, all these petty nobles seem to deserve their fates. Either they are too ignorant to defend their fiefdom, are actively working against it (by ineptitude or design), or basically just lame excuses for leaders (few exceptions).

I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and find them in Sauruman's pocket, or find out they were really good all along.
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Why do you play Lotro?

December 10, 2013, 10:45 am
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Exactly the title of the question..

Why do you play Lord of the Rings Online?

Challenge, lore, boredom, social, mechanics, scenery?
What are your reasons for playing this particular game?
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No TP's

December 10, 2013, 11:44 am
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Don't know about you guys but i'm being deprived of tp's, bought hd, no 1000 tp's.... became a vip no 500 tp's, is this common practise?
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Chicken football! Again?

December 11, 2013, 3:22 am
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Hey!

I found a new deed at my deed log. That was not here before HD.

This is the "Chicken Chasing League" deed.
Rewards:
10tp
Chicken Chasing Hero (characteristic passive)
Hobnanigans Star title

Will this game return at the Yule festival or just a bug? o.O
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Excuse me I think I have a dead Dwarf

December 11, 2013, 3:24 am
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An adventurer enters a npc vendor's shop.


Mr. Hero : 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.


(The npc does not respond.)


Mr. Hero : 'Ello, Miss?


Owner: What do you mean "miss"?


Mr. Hero : (pause)I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!


Npc r: We're closin' for lunch.


Mr. Hero : Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this dwarf what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.


Npc : Oh yes, the, uh, the Blue Mountains Blue ...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?


Mr. Hero : I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!


Npc: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.


Mr. Hero : Look, matey, I know a dead dwarf when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.


Npc : No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable dwarf, the Blue Mountains Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful beardage!


Mr. Hero: The beardage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.


Npc : Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!


Mr. Hero : All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! (shouting at the cage) 'Ello, Mister Gimlet Bloodaxe! I've got a lovely fresh piece of Mithril for you if you show...


(Npc hits the cage)


Npc: There, he moved!


Mr. Hero: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!


Npc: I never!!


Mr. Hero: Yes, you did!


Npc : I never, never did anything...


Mr. Hero : (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO DORFFY!!!!! Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!


(Takes dwarf out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)


Mr. Hero: Now that's what I call a dead dwarf.


Npc: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!


Mr. Hero : STUNNED?!?


Npc: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Blue Mountain Blues stun easily, major.


Mr. Hero: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That dwarf is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged BBBAARRAAKKK HHAARRDDDURRRR.


Npc: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for Moria.


Mr. Hero : PININ' for Moria?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?


Npc : The Blue Mountain Blue prefers keepin' on it's back! Remarkable dwarf, id'nit, squire? Lovely beardage!


Mr. Hero : Look, I took the liberty of examining that dwarf when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its bench in the first place was that it had been NAILED to a hobbit.


(pause)


Npc : Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that dwarf down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its First Age Great Axe, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!


Mr. Hero: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this dwarf wouldn't "voom" if you put The Great Eye up his jacksie! 'E's bleedin' demised!


Npc: No no! 'E's pining!


Mr. Hero : 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This dwarf is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the bench 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-DWARF!!


(pause)


Npc: Well, I'd better replace it, then. (he takes a quick peek behind the counter) Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of dwarves.


Mr. Hero: I see. I see, I get the picture.


Npc: (pause) I got a Shire slug.


(pause)


Mr. Hero: Pray, does it talk?


Npc: Nnnnot really.


Mr. Hero : WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?


Npc: N-no, I guess not. (gets ashamed, looks at his feet)


Npc: Look, if you go to my brother's pet shop in Angmar, he'll replace the dwarf for you.


Mr. Praline: Angmar, eh? Very well.


(The customer leaves.)


(The customer enters the same pet shop. The npc is putting on a false moustache.)


Mr. Hero : This is Angmar, is it?


Npc: (with a fake mustache) No, it's Isengard.


Mr. Hero: (looking at the camera) That's hunter taxi service for you.


(Mr. Hero goes to the to file a bug report. He addresses a man standing behind a desk marked "GM".)


Mr. Hero: I wish to complain, GM Person.


GM person: I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS JOB, YOU KNOW!!!


Mr. Hero: I beg your pardon...?


GM person: I'm a qualified brain surgeon! I only do this job because I like being my own boss!


Mr. Hero: Excuse me, this is irrelevant, isn't it?


GM person: Yeah, well it's not easy to pad these python files out to 150 lines, you know.


Mr. Hero: Well, I wish to complain. I got on the Angmar hunter port and found myself deposited here in Isengard.


GM person: No, this is Angmar.


Mr. Hero: (to the camera) The npc man's brother was lying!!


GM person: Can't blame support for that.


Mr. Hero: In that case, I shall return to the npc shop!


He does.


Mr. Hero: I understand this IS Angmar.


Npc: (still with the fake mustache) Yes?


Mr. Hero: You told me it was Isengard!


Npc: ...It was a pun.


Mr. Hero: (pause) A PUN?!?


Npc : No, no...not a pun...What's that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards?


Mr. Hero: (Long pause) A palindrome...?


Npc : Yeah, that's it!


Mr. Hero: It's not a palindrome! The palindrome of "Angmar" would be "Ramgna"!! It don't work!!


Npc: Well, what do you want?


Mr. Hero: I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!


Sapience : Quite agree, quite agree, too silly, far too silly... (takes Hero by the arm) Come on, you, you've got to go do another instance now! Come on... (he walks off stage left, followed by the devs and mods, leaving the npc alone on the set)


Npc : (to anyone still playing) Well! I never wanted to do this in the first place. I wanted to be... a first person shooter!


***Thanks to Monty Python for being the great comic geniuses they were***
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